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  You're Going To Get A Whippin' !!!

  by Perry in

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  for those who were raised/born in the truth: .

  1. were you ever beaten as a child?

  and, i mean where the parent really crossed the line, not just spanking.

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  For those who were raised/born in the truth:

  1. Were you ever beaten as a child? And, I mean where the parent really crossed the line, not just spanking.

  2. If yes, at what age did it stop?

  3. Do you think it would have been the same if your parents weren't JW's?

  what a great question !!!!!!!!! I wouldn't say beaten, but DEFINITELY threatened, endless amount of times, with things like : "do you want to die at armageddon", "you better go to the meeting or ELSE!", when you start thinking about suicide and hopelessness then YES they crossed the line. it stopped when I left JW land, actually no, it hasn't stopped, even when they call they still say something stupid, the last time was "don't you want to see your dad again.", I lost it. If my parents were not JW's it WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT, no doubt at all, I have no real family contact, just the occasional discussion on the phone that ends up in a verbal war. I have no respect for my mom or my dad, and probaly never will, that's just the way it goes, you can't pick your parents.
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  A friend needs some advice...

  by onacruse in

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  one of our close friends is on the verge of an almost inevitable confrontation with her dad re: her fading.

  her family is very devoted to the wts, and she expects that she'll have only one shot at presenting her defense to him.

  she has 5 issues in particular about which she feels very strongly (not necessarily in this order):.

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  We'd both sincerely appreciate your ideas: Other issues that you may have raised that had impact on your folks? Is 5 issues too many for one shot? How would you rate these 5 issues, in order of importance to a JW father? How would you present them?

  It's never too many, had a good discussion with my brother (elder) and I brought up over 30 and put him on the defensive the whole time, finally it ended in a stalemate.

  Not knowing the individuals I would not know which order they should go, everyone is different and has different issues, for me it's history, I love talking it with my JW family, 1914,1925,1935,1975, 1995 and soon, it's unlikely we will see the 21st century is still my favorite.

  The one question that gets my family p---ed off is when I say, "Do you really know what you believe in." Not the organization, not brother so and so, what do you believe in, Armageddon ??? death to all who are not JW's ??? end of the world ??? living in the last days ??? heavens doors are closed ??? 1914 ??? Christ returned invisibly in 1914 ??? new light ??? like where does it end.

  The Watchtower is nothing more than a book publishing company that scares people, and unfortunately over 6,000,000 buy into it.
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  Are you with a JW or a non-JW?

  by Out At 22 in

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  my boyfriend (feels more like fiance though i guess as we've talked about but just need the ring) and i have been together over two yrs and living together for over a yr. he never was a jw, and professes to be no religon and isn't even sure god exsists.

  is your signifigant other a jw or non-witness?

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  Non, but my family really believes they can convince her to become one and bring me back in the fold.

  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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  Ten thousand ...

  by Simon in

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  i'm just made 10,000 posts ... but what's in a number?.

  one of my favourite lyrics is from a bob dylan song:.

  oh i wish, i wish, i wish in vain.

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  so what happens to a poster at 10000, how about they become a "governing body master"
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  LIFE AFTER FEAR

  by Dansk in

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  when i was a jw i prayed regularly and often and i thanked jehovah in prayer again when events turned out favourably.

  however, sometimes things worked out unfavourably for me or a member of my family but we never blamed jehovah.

  having now been out of watchtower clutches for over seven months i began to realise that jehovah couldnt lose!

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  I began to realise that Jehovah couldn’t lose! We praised him when things were good, but we never once blamed him when things went pear shaped.

  perfectly said, Jehovah gets all the praise when things go good, and Satan gets it when it goes bad, and if you are a JW and things are going bad, it's because you're not doing enough service and personal study. WHAT A SCAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  My parents worst JW saying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by run dont walk in

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  well, i might have went a little too far this time, but when someone pushes me, i push back, that's just the way i am.. my parents worst saying, and was probaly one of the reasons that i left jw land was ..................."the worst person at the kingdom hall is better than the best person in the world.".

  if i had a dollar for everytime i heard that growing up.. so, i asked my mom if she still felt that way, she said sort of (very carefully), i said so the jw child molesters are still better then people in the world, is that how you really feel ?

  she started to cry, before it was the media just making up stories, now i think she is realizing that "some" of these stories are true.. she asked me why i hate the jw's so much.. i said i don't hate the jw's, i hate the organization and the lies.

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  Well, I might have went a little too far this time, but when someone pushes me, I push back, that's just the way I am.

  My parents worst saying, and was probaly one of the reasons that I left JW land was ...................

  "The worst person at the Kingdom Hall is better than the best person in the world."

  if I had a dollar for everytime I heard that growing up.

  So, I asked my mom if she still felt that way, she said sort of (very carefully), I said so the JW child molesters are still better then people in the world, is that how you really feel ?

  She started to cry, before it was the media just making up stories, now I think she is realizing that "some" of these stories are true.

  She asked me why I hate the JW's so much.

  I said I don't hate the JW's, I hate the organization and the lies.

  All I want from you mom is to admit you made a mistake, that the JW life is not that great afterall, and it is ok to grow up without JW land, it is NOT the end of the world.

  That was the end of the conversation, I have had a couple days to reflect and think about it.

  Did I go to far ???

  Did your parents have any saying to you that drove you nuts ???
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  Elder's comment

  by CaptK in

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  this is unbelievable.

  i was at the watchtower meeting last sunday and one elder gave an answer that jw 's do not have the problems like the cathlic church where the preist are molesting boys or the church has to pay huge sums of money out to abused cases.

  is he not aware what is happening within the jw organization ?

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  it really is amazing how UNAWWRE they are, I recently talked with my sister and brother and both had NO IDEA about the UN mess, I looked at them in disbelief. Like, How could you not know ?

  The Watchtower are the KINGS of keeping info from loyal ones.
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  Where do you believe the watchtower organization will be in 20 years?

  by micheal in

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  i know if any of us had our way the org.

  would be gone tomorrow.

  but in realistic terms, what condition will this cruel organization be in in 20 years.. .

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  this is by far my favorite question, I have asked this same one on other threads,

  I do believe in the next 15-25 years it should come tumbling down, but then again there are alot of loyal ones who stick it out regardless. My reasoning ALL of the annoited and governing body will DIE OFF. So then what ??? another heavenly class, "new light" on how to run things, probaly, but how many times can they pull this one on the publishers ???
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  I have crossed over...Blondie

  by blondie in

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  to another level...supreme one.. do i get a prize....i would like a hot fudge turtle sundae.. blondie

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  congrats blondie !!!!!!!!!!!!

  keep it going

  love ya !!!
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  Something I've never told you........

  by Tinkerbell4125 in

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  i've really been struggling over the past few months.

  when craig and i got married, i didn't invite my dad to my wedding.

  six weeks later he takes his life.

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  Thanks for letting me get it out and venting.

  anytime, it's natural too feel guilty, but sometimes you can only do so much for family, and even if you had invited him, the same result probaly would of still happened down the road, I don't know all the details of your upbringing, but I do know you have a mate who cares alot for you, always remember that.

  You will get over this, it may take 10 weeks, it may take 10 years, everyone is different, but DO NOT be hard on yourself.